tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1844996720330347615.post3326520643934513314..comments2023-11-02T04:20:06.495-06:00Comments on The Wacky World Views of TJ Shelby: First Presidency Issues Letter on Political ParticipationT.J. Shelbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05838121441358608934noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1844996720330347615.post-13126950916200917402008-10-01T23:53:00.000-06:002008-10-01T23:53:00.000-06:00Oh, to live in the quiet, naive, little bubble in...Oh, to live in the quiet, naive, little bubble in Happy Valley, Utah... where at our church meeting tonight, not once was Prop 8 brought up... but everything (and I mean everything- teaching earth sciences, witch quilts, pole dancing and stripper videos, gay love scenes in movies, the tyrancy of martha stewart, and feministic views of princess stories, amid planning our city volleyball league team, values and ethics pertaining to movies and the media, christmas tree skirts, and organizing PTA committees) else was... but you have made me aware of Prop 8 being on the ballot, so you can consider yourself following the counsel of your priesthood leaders... hahahahaHeidi Maloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09793890058616340879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1844996720330347615.post-29853488631939838442008-10-01T09:30:00.000-06:002008-10-01T09:30:00.000-06:00ugh .. they want you to make calls but say it's no...ugh .. they want you to make calls but say it's not an option to make from the church? i think that's ridiculous. i'm still getting harrassing phone calls (one even the day after i had finley while i was in the hospital) talk about frustrating!! rob has even talked about changing my phone number. i had to change my message (as i mention jocole, and if you google jocole i'm like the top websites ... UGH!)<BR/><BR/>if they expect you to participate, at least they should offer alternatives that wont put you in danger of being harrassed.<BR/><BR/>and i think it's INSANE that they are asking to cancel activities so you can participate. ridiculous. your stake really has gone over the top.Jodi Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15380082781702727739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1844996720330347615.post-9153029225558453242008-10-01T01:18:00.000-06:002008-10-01T01:18:00.000-06:00Scott, I don't know. I'll have to wait until the ...Scott, I don't know. I'll have to wait until the broadcast to find out. I can't imagine it will be anything new though.<BR/><BR/>Oh and what Nicole mentioned is only the tip of the iceberg. We have bold faced lies being spread over the pulpit without corrective measures being enforced. <BR/><BR/>"If we don't follow the Prophet on Prop 8, can you imagine the State sanctioning gay marriage and forcing us to solemnize gay marriages in the temples?" That was merely hours after the very same individual and I had a conversation where I explained to him that this was a legal impossibility based upon the law as it was currently written. Yet he used his fear-inducing lies to play the emotion card anyway.T.J. Shelbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838121441358608934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1844996720330347615.post-21571481632735702332008-09-30T19:00:00.000-06:002008-09-30T19:00:00.000-06:00What the? I imagine from Nicole's comments that th...What the? I imagine from Nicole's comments that they are doing all that stuff...that's crazy. I think your stake is a little over the top and out of step with what they should be doing...do I sense some sarcasm from you two...?haha, anyways, the only thing we have had is a joint third hour of RS and Priesthood all about Prop 8, oh, and the Bishop personally calling for donations/participation, oh, and the high council rep calling for participation...no cancellation of meetings though yet, I guess we're not doing all we can do like your stake! hahaha...how do you feel about the Salt Lake Broadcast on the subject on Oct 8?Scott H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10634038003127128024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1844996720330347615.post-15411424882193755172008-09-30T16:50:00.000-06:002008-09-30T16:50:00.000-06:00i think it is fascinating (well, that's not the ri...i think it is fascinating (well, that's not the right word) that in one breath we are shown wards that have cancelled temple night and missionary efforts as a model to be followed. we are encouraged to cancel relief society activities and make prop 8 phone calls instead. and all of this over the pulpit. <BR/><BR/>the very next breath? "but remember, you can't make those phone calls in the church building! choose a home!" <BR/><BR/>also, i'd still like to know...how is prop 8 the gettysburg of our time? who is supposed to be the slaves and who are the slavers?Nicole Shelbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05135884281309464784noreply@blogger.com